|Self-published amateur Dave Fitzgerald|
"Honestly, I’d put it even more strongly than that – now, I actually can’t see how there even could have been an actual Jesus."
"The first red flag for me was realizing just how little evidence actually holds up to inspection at all. Another was seeing how differently Christians talked about Jesus before and after the gospels were written. And then there’s the general level of bluff and bluster and just ridiculously overstated claims of Christian biblical scholars."
"There’s nothing implausible about Christianity beginning with a wandering teacher and his followers. And it’s no skin off my nose if there was – but that’s not what our evidence points to."
"Critics have been pointing out some of these problems since the first and second centuries."
"But Christ - if he has indeed been born and exists anywhere - is unknown, and does not even know himself and has no power until Elias comes to anoint him and make him manifest to all. And you, having accepted a groundless report, invent a Christ for yourselves, and for his sake are inconsiderately perishing." [Dialogue with Trypho, Dialog 8]" (p. 212, Fitzgerald's emphasis)
"[F]or many atheists, such a jaw-dropping notion raises the same alarms they get when they see crackpots talking about Atlantis or Bigfoot being real, or the moon landings being fake. To be fair, there are several Jesus myth theories that are just nonsense."
"In my books I detail why the most cited so-called sources outside the New Testament are considered forgeries and why the rest only provide evidence for the existence of Christianity rather than Jesus himself. They all draw their information about Jesus from Christian sources."
"Ultimately, however, this isn’t a fight between mythicists and historicists; it’s a fight between those that take mythicism seriously (mythicists and historicists alike) and those that simply dismiss it out of hand as something long-since settled."
"The further we go back in Christian history, the more diverse it appears, and the less likely it began with a single founder. Instead there are abundant indications that its origins are tied to the pagan mystery faiths."
"At that time Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptised by John in the Jordan. .... After John was put in prison, Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God. 'The time has come,' he said. 'The kingship of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!' (Mark 1: 9-15)
This urgent message begins to be tempered later as some of "this generation" began to die, so we find assurances that at least some of them would still be alive when the apocalypse comes (see 1 Thess. 4:15-17; Mark 9:1 and Mark 14:62). As the first century went on the delay in the coming of the apocalypse meant later gospel writers had to adjust things slightly. So gLuke tones down some of the language he finds in his source, gMark, with its writer removing “in power” in Mark 9:1. This is because for Luke the Kingdom has already “come to you” in Jesus’ own ministry (Luke 11:10). He also changes the prediction that the high priest would see the apocalypse in Mark 14:62, since by the time gLuke was written that high priest was long dead ( see Luke 22:69).
"Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened." (Mark 13:30)
"What is important about this argument –and what makes it worth arguing about–is that it shows what we can and can’t know about who or what Jesus really was. Everything we learn from the back and forth of this historical argument – on both sides – helps us call the bluff of anyone who says they know how Jesus wants you to behave or think or vote."